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Another part of this debate seems to me to concern our inability, an issue very much shared by the voluntary and even, arguably, the community development sector,to fail to work together. Co-operation, these days, seem non-existant with the potential of the social and community enterprise as a broad church to initiate and identify change an unrealised concept. Yet surely if we continue to ignore ways in which we all to some extent overlap, recognise common ground and share our many problems individualisation becomes the road to no-where. Take, for example, credit unions (although I prefer the notion of a community/neighbourhood bank) in our region where there are almost twenty individual CUs committed to these lonely, and my view, selfish pathways. Yet if we worked together, and our county identies could be easily retained, we could solve massive problems ranging from a shared audit to a corporate banking account. Another example is the Republic of Ireland where the collective strength of community banking amounts to some 18b, yes, billion, euros and is a good example of how to move on. This is not to say the money is collectively shared but it does demonstrate how, Dublin Health Authority and others, can employ dozens of staff, provide numerous perks to their staff and provide real alternatives to the major banking system. What policy papers there are from central and local govt. seem to me to completely ignore the benfits of cooperation as we find ourselves, sadly, simply copying sad and insular models from industry and business. Who long ago have, demonstrably, lost their way....

I think you're right Peter. And, as you point out, it's not only about competition vs. collaboration (which remains central to these issues), but also about duplication, scale, impact and so on.

I don't think there are any easy answers: certainly, I wouldn't want to reduce the potential for new innovation, new solutions, new leaders emerging and so on. And I want to see solutions best-fit to the community they are aiming to serve (and understanding/engaging/being indelibly linked to that community).

On the flipside, bigger operations can bring more 'efficiency', a quicker growth in scale of impact, reduction in wasted resources....but also potentially an out-of-touch, bureaucratic, top-down initiative....

I think models of replication and co-operation that allow individual organisations to co-exist and co-support are the ways forward. Ones that can give scale but also flexibility at the local level. It's certainly not easy, but that's what SSE is trying to pursue through it's franchise model, and also through our chairing of the Social Entrepreneurship Policy Group (with Ashoka, CAN, Changemakers, TrainingForLife, UnLtd and ourselves).

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